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ISO 639-3: mec

The combined catalog of all OLAC participants contains the following resources that are relevant to this language:

Other known names and dialect names: Leelalwarra, Leelawarra, Mala, Marra

Use faceted search to explore resources for Mara language.

Lexical resources

  1. ONLINECrúbadán language data for Mara. Kevin Scannell. 2018. The Crúbadán Project. oai:crubadan.org:mec
  2. ONLINEMara Swadesh List. n.a. n.d. The Rosetta Project: A Long Now Foundation Library of Human Language. oai:rosettaproject.org:rosettaproject_mec_swadesh-1

Language descriptions

  1. ONLINEGlottolog 5.0 Resources for Marra. n.a. 2024. Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology. oai:glottolog.org:mara1385
  2. ONLINEPHOIBLE 2.0 phonemic inventories for Marra. n.a. 2019. Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History. oai:phoible.org:mara1385
  3. ONLINEWALS Online Resources for Mara. n.a. 2024. Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology. oai:wals.info:mra

Other resources about the language

  1. ONLINEBasic Materials in Mara: Grammar, Texts and Dictionary. Heath, Jeffrey. 1981. Australian National University. oai:refdb.wals.info:2403
  2. ONLINEComparative Survey of Reduplication in Australian Languages. Fabricius, Anne H. 1998. Lincom Europa. oai:refdb.wals.info:2944
  3. ONLINEAustralian Languages. Dixon, R. M. W. 2002. Cambridge University Press. oai:refdb.wals.info:3698
  4. ONLINEMara: a language of Australia. n.a. 2018. SIL International. oai:ethnologue.com:mec
  5. ONLINEMaureen Thompson: a traditional warring party (galga) story. Maureen Thompson; Donald Blitner. 2010-09-14. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317659
  6. ONLINEMaureen Thompson: story of Walgundu cave. Maureen Thompson. 2010-12-09. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317656
  7. ONLINEFreda Roberts: coming to Ngukurr as a young girl. Freda Miramba Roberts. 2010-12-10. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317653
  8. ONLINEMaureen and Freda review Yanyuwa dictionary. Freda Miramba Roberts; Maureen Thompson. 2010-12-10. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317651
  9. ONLINEMaureen Thompson talks about budularr (firestick). Maureen Thompson. 2011-10-22. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317662
  10. ONLINEMaureen Thompson Artist Story: Part 3. Maureen Thompson. 2011-10-06. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317669
  11. ONLINEMaureen Thompson Artist Story - MT63/07 Part 1. Maureen Thompson. 2011-10-20. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317666
  12. ONLINEMaureen Thompson Artist Story - MT63/07 Part 2. Maureen Thompson. 2011-10-20. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317664
  13. ONLINEMaureen Thompson Artist Story: Part 1. Maureen Thompson. 2011-10-06. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317673
  14. ONLINEMaureen Thompson Artist Story: Part 2. Maureen Thompson. 2011-10-06. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317671
  15. ONLINEFreda and Limmen Bight District: oral history and current mining plans (Part 1). Freda Miramba Roberts. 2011-06-27. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317638
  16. ONLINEFreda and Limmen Bight District: oral history and current mining plans (Part 2). Freda Miramba Roberts. 2011-06-27. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317635
  17. ONLINEFreda and Limmen Bight District: oral history and current mining plans (Part 3). Freda Miramba Roberts. 2011-06-27. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317632
  18. ONLINEWhere Freda lived before coming to the Mission. Freda; Fanny; Topsy; Greg (annotator); Juluba; Betty (translator). 2015-11-13. Greg Dickson. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1104222
  19. ONLINEOld Bessie talks about working with missionaries and establishing a mission on Groote Eylandt. Bessie Numamurdirdi. 2010-12-14. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317649
  20. ONLINEGroup discussion: Maureen's tells a story about events in Limmen Bight district in the early days, then verb elicitation. Maureen Thompson; Freda Miramba Roberts. 2011-01-13. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317646
  21. ONLINEMaureen Thompson: what we ate a long time ago (addendum). Maureen Thompson. 2012-05-15. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317644
  22. ONLINEArtist story and story of 1940 Flood. Maureen Thompson. 2012-05-16. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317641
  23. ONLINEHenry talks and sings about Marra country, songs and more. Henry Numamurdirdi. 2011-10-03. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317679
  24. ONLINEGroup discussion: general (Kriol and Marra). Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Topsy Numamurdirdi; Bessie Numamurdirdi; Henry Numamurdirdi; Betty Roberts. 2010-08-27. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317677
  25. ONLINEMaureen and Donald discuss historical Marra events/stories. Maureen Thompson; Donald Blitner. 2010-09-14. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317675
  26. ONLINEGroup discussion: stories, consent and listening to Jarrgun. Freda Miramba Roberts; Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Topsy Numamurdirdi; Bessie Numamurdirdi. 2010-07-28. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317686
  27. ONLINEGroup discussion: stories, listening to Jarrgun and ethnobiology. Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Topsy Numamurdirdi; Bessie Numamurdirdi; Henry Numamurdirdi; Betty Roberts. 2010-08-26. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317683
  28. ONLINEGroup discussion (short): timestamping and some ethnobiology. Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Topsy Numamurdirdi; Bessie Numamurdirdi; Henry Numamurdirdi; Betty Roberts. 2010-08-27. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317681
  29. ONLINEGroup discussion: Marra plants (Part 3). Freda Miramba Roberts; Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Topsy Numamurdirdi; Henry Numamurdirdi. 2010-07-14. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317688
  30. ONLINETopsy discussing Numbulwar. Freda Miramba Roberts; Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Topsy Numamurdirdi; Henry Numamurdirdi. 2010-07-14. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317697
  31. ONLINEGroup discussion: Marra plants (Part 1). Freda Miramba Roberts; Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Topsy Numamurdirdi; Henry Numamurdirdi. 2010-07-14. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317694
  32. ONLINEGroup discussion: Marra plants (Part 2). Freda Miramba Roberts; Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Topsy Numamurdirdi; Henry Numamurdirdi. 2010-07-14. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317691
  33. ONLINEFanny's Oral History. Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Topsy Numamurdirdi; Henry Numamurdirdi. 2010-07-14. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317702
  34. ONLINEOral history by Freda. Freda Miramba Roberts. 2010-07-14. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317700
  35. ONLINEPicture Task (SCOPIC) Part Two. Freda Miramba Roberts; Topsy Numamurdirdi. 2011-10-03. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317708
  36. ONLINEGroup discussion: Oral Histories by Fanny and Topsy. Freda Miramba Roberts; Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Topsy Numamurdirdi; Henry Numamurdirdi. 2010-07-14. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317705
  37. ONLINEMaureen Thompson: Rambaramba story. Maureen Thompson. 2011-09-07. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317716
  38. ONLINEWanyin (Stone Blades). Maureen Thompson. 2011-09-28. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317713
  39. ONLINEPicture Task (SCOPIC) Part One. Freda Miramba Roberts; Topsy Numamurdirdi. 2011-10-03. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317710
  40. ONLINEGroup discussion: Fanny tells a story and then discussion about saltwater fish. Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi. 2012-05-23. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317748
  41. ONLINEGroup discussion: saltwater fish. Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Topsy Numamurdirdi; Freda Miramba Roberts. 2012-05-23. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317746
  42. ONLINEGroup discussion: saltwater fish, dugong and Dugong story. Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Topsy Numamurdirdi; Freda Miramba Roberts; Anthony Daniels. 2012-05-23. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317744
  43. ONLINEGroup discussion: saltwater fish. Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Topsy Numamurdirdi; Freda Miramba Roberts; Henry Numamurdirdi. 2012-05-23. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317742
  44. ONLINEGroup discussion: saltwater fish. Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Topsy Numamurdirdi; Freda Miramba Roberts; Henry Numamurdirdi. 2012-05-23. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317740
  45. ONLINEMaureen Thompson: Artist story. Maureen Thompson. 2011-11-08. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317759
  46. ONLINEMaureen Thompson: Artist story - Christian painting. Maureen Thompson. 2012-03-07. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317756
  47. ONLINEMaureen Thompson: what we ate a long time ago. Maureen Thompson. 2012-05-15. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317753
  48. ONLINEGroup discussion and story of Fanny encountering a spirit. Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi. 2012-05-23. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317750
  49. ONLINEMaureen Thompson briefly describes a painting. Maureen Thompson. 2011-08-30. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317727
  50. ONLINEMaureen Thompson: some kinterm elicitation. Maureen Thompson. 2011-09-01. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317725
  51. ONLINEMaureen Thompson: story from the early mission days. Maureen Thompson. 2011-09-01. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317723
  52. ONLINEGroup discussion: stories, discussion, elicitation and talking about Limmen Bight and mining plans. Topsy Numamurdirdi; Henry Numamurdirdi; Betty Roberts; Freda Miramba Roberts; Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Bessie Numamurdirdi. 2011-09-03. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317720
  53. ONLINEFreda, Henry, Fanny and Betty: life in the old days (food, country, songs). Henry Numamurdirdi; Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Freda Miramba Roberts. 2012-06-05. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317729
  54. ONLINEArchive review: watching 1980s video of Marra group. Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Topsy Numamurdirdi; Anthony Daniels; Henry Numamurdirdi. 2012-05-23. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317738
  55. ONLINEOld Gathawuy talks about going to Darwin for an eye operation. Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi. 2012-05-23. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317735
  56. ONLINEFreda talks about Limmen Bight area. Henry Numamurdirdi; Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Freda Miramba Roberts. 2012-06-05. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317731
  57. ONLINEGroup discussion: reviewing Yanyuwa Dictionary. Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Topsy Numamurdirdi; Henry Numamurdirdi; Betty Roberts; Freda Miramba Roberts; Maureen Thompson. 2010-12-14. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317789
  58. ONLINEGroup discussion: Verbs elicitation. Maureen Thompson; Freda Miramba Roberts; Freda Miramba Roberts; Freda Miramba Roberts. 2011-01-13. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317786
  59. ONLINEOld Fanny talks about making fire in the old days and other things before Munanga. Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi. 2010-12-14. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317794
  60. ONLINELanguage Policy restricting use of Aboriginal languages at Roper Mission in the early days. Cherry Daniels. 2010-12-14. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317791
  61. ONLINEGroup discussion: Marra plants (Part 4). Freda Miramba Roberts; Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Topsy Numamurdirdi; Henry Numamurdirdi. 2010-07-14. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317799
  62. ONLINEOld Topsy tells a story from the early days living around Wamunggu. Topsy Numamurdirdi. 2010-12-14. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317797
  63. ONLINEMaureen Thompson talks about a bush medicine - Dirringgirl-dirringgirl. Maureen Thompson. 2011-10-22. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317769
  64. ONLINEMaureen and Freda: kinterms (Part 1). Maureen Thompson; Freda Miramba Roberts. 2011-10-28. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317767
  65. ONLINEMaureen and Freda: kinterms (Part 2). Maureen Thompson; Freda Miramba Roberts. 2011-10-28. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317765
  66. ONLINEMaureen and Freda: kinterms (Part 3). Maureen Thompson; Freda Miramba Roberts. 2011-10-28. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317762
  67. ONLINEMaureen Thompson: Painting description. Maureen Thompson. 2011-09-28. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317778
  68. ONLINEMaureen Thompson Artist Story: Bubunarra. Maureen Thompson. 2011-10-05. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317772
  69. ONLINEGroup discussion: Verbs elicitation and Freda's story about coming to Roper Mission speaking only Marra. Freda Miramba Roberts. 2011-01-14. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317783
  70. ONLINEMaureen Thompson: World War II submarine appears on Marra country. Maureen Thompson. 2011-09-01. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317780
  71. ONLINEGroup discussion: project consent. Freda Miramba Roberts; Topsy Numamurdirdi; Greg Dickson. 2010-07-09. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317811
  72. ONLINEElders listen to archives: Borroloola stories recorded by Hale in 1959. Freda Miramba Roberts; Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Topsy Numamurdirdi. 2010-07-09. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317816
  73. ONLINEGroup discussion: Topsy and other chat. Freda Miramba Roberts; Topsy Numamurdirdi. 2010-07-09. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317813
  74. ONLINEGroup discussion and Freda's Oral History. Freda Miramba Roberts; Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Topsy Numamurdirdi. 2010-07-09. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317809
  75. ONLINEFreda's Oral History (continued). Freda Miramba Roberts. 2010-07-09. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317807
  76. ONLINEFreda's Oral History (continued). Freda Miramba Roberts. 2010-07-09. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317805
  77. ONLINEGroup discussion: elicitation, some ethnobiology and listening to a 1960 archive recording. Freda Miramba Roberts; Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Topsy Numamurdirdi. 2010-07-13. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317802
  78. ONLINE20111022MARRAmtNGUgd01a. Maureen Thompson. 2011-10-22. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1253839
  79. ONLINE20111027MARRAmtNGUgd01a. Maureen Thompson. 2011-10-27. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1253835
  80. ONLINE20120307MARRAmtNGUgd02a. Maureen Thompson. 2012-03-07. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1253831
  81. ONLINE20100714MARRAgroupNUMgd01a. Freda Miramba Roberts; Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Topsy Numamurdirdi; Henry Numamurdirdi. 2010-07-14. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1253845
  82. ONLINE20111005MARRAmtNGUgd01a. Maureen Thompson. 2011-10-05. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1253842
  83. ONLINEFreda describes photos from a trip to Limmen Bight. Freda Miramba Roberts. 2011-06-27. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317619
  84. ONLINEMaureen Thompson: hit by a boomerang as a child and describing a painting. Maureen Thompson. 2011-08-30. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317617
  85. ONLINEFreda, Henry, Fanny and Betty: life in the old days (food, country, songs) - Addendum. Henry Numamurdirdi; Fanny Gathawuy Numamurdirdi; Freda Miramba Roberts. 2012-06-05. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317615
  86. ONLINEFreda and Limmen Bight District: oral history and current mining plans (Part 4). Freda Miramba Roberts. 2011-06-27. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317629
  87. ONLINEFreda and Limmen Bight District: oral history and current mining plans (Part 5). Freda Miramba Roberts. 2011-06-27. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317626
  88. ONLINEFreda and Limmen Bight District: oral history and current mining plans (Part 6). Freda Miramba Roberts. 2011-06-27. Endangered Languages Archive. oai:soas.ac.uk:MPI1317623
  89. ONLINELINGUIST List Resources for Mara. Damir Cavar, Director of Linguist List (editor); Malgorzata E. Cavar, Director of Linguist List (editor). 2017-09-27. The LINGUIST List (www.linguistlist.org). oai:linguistlist.org:lang_mec
  90. ONLINELomax Collection Recording of Mara. n.a. n.d. The Rosetta Project: A Long Now Foundation Library of Human Language. oai:rosettaproject.org:rosettaproject_jao_vertext-1

Other resources in the language

  1. ONLINEBird names in Marra. Hill, Stephen (editor). n.d. Living Archive of Aboriginal Languages. oai:espace.cdu.edu.au:cdu:59930
  2. ONLINEGan.gu-nyindi gana ni-rlindiyi?. Roberts, Betty; Garadji, Dinah; George, Angelina. n.d. Living Archive of Aboriginal Languages. oai:espace.cdu.edu.au:cdu:45484
  3. ONLINEGan.gunyindi gana ni-rlindiyi?. Roberts, Freda. n.d. Living Archive of Aboriginal Languages. oai:espace.cdu.edu.au:cdu:43013
  4. ONLINEJambirrina. Roberts, Freda Miramba. n.d. Living Archive of Aboriginal Languages. oai:espace.cdu.edu.au:cdu:60949
  5. ONLINEManabarru. n.a. n.d. Living Archive of Aboriginal Languages. oai:espace.cdu.edu.au:cdu:45486
  6. ONLINEManabarru. n.a. n.d. Living Archive of Aboriginal Languages. oai:espace.cdu.edu.au:cdu:60950
  7. ONLINENana ninya n-galngi-ngini. Thompson, Doreen Maureen; Heath, Jeffrey. n.d. Living Archive of Aboriginal Languages. oai:espace.cdu.edu.au:cdu:45489
  8. ONLINENga-jurra na-warlanyan-i. White, Christine (illustrator). n.d. Living Archive of Aboriginal Languages. oai:espace.cdu.edu.au:cdu:45490
  9. ONLINENganan Eva Daway-ugi. LeMay, David (illustrator); Riley, Queenie (translator); Garadji, Dinah (translator); Riley, Eva (translator); Roberts, Betty (translator); Thompson, Maureen (translator). n.d. Living Archive of Aboriginal Languages. oai:espace.cdu.edu.au:cdu:45492
  10. ONLINENgulawarr. Thompson, Maureen; Garadji, Dinah. n.d. Living Archive of Aboriginal Languages. oai:espace.cdu.edu.au:cdu:45493
  11. ONLINENiwi-rlini nya-radburr-yurr niwigi. Roberts, Freda. n.d. Living Archive of Aboriginal Languages. oai:espace.cdu.edu.au:cdu:60952
  12. ONLINENiwi-Rlini Nyawurlbarr-yurr. Thompson, Maureen; Garadji, Dinah; Roberts, Betty. n.d. Living Archive of Aboriginal Languages. oai:espace.cdu.edu.au:cdu:45494
  13. ONLINENiwi-rlini Wuyagiba-nyindi. Roberts, Betty; Daniels, Anthony; Dickson, Greg. n.d. Living Archive of Aboriginal Languages. oai:espace.cdu.edu.au:cdu:60953
  14. ONLINESome body part names in Marra. Hill, Stephen (editor). n.d. Living Archive of Aboriginal Languages. oai:espace.cdu.edu.au:cdu:59932
  15. ONLINEWarlindu nya-gurrungarran-yurr. Roberts, Freda; Thompson, Maureen; Roberts, Betty. n.d. Living Archive of Aboriginal Languages. oai:espace.cdu.edu.au:cdu:45500
  16. ONLINEWulagagurr wul-wayarr-wayarr. Roberts, Betty; Garadji, Dinah; Conway, Fred; Riley, Queenie; Thompson, Maureen. n.d. Living Archive of Aboriginal Languages. oai:espace.cdu.edu.au:cdu:45501

Other known names and dialect names: Leelalwarra, Leelawarra, Mala, Marra

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